Comments on: On Women Deacons http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons ALERT: Dr. Köstenberger’s blogs are now becoming available in Spanish. We will continue to add new posts as soon as they can be translated. Click on “Espanol” above Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:55:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Helen http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-95275 Helen Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:57:58 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-95275 This is an endless argument to those who don't want to believe in todays world the Bible has not changed, so many interpretations,verses translations! This is the difference. I am a woman of God, I have the qualifications of deacon, to some and yet I know that this is not the role of women in church. As the world says, we can do all that men do, the Bible clearly does not teach this. We can be servants in so many other offices in the church, but, since we are told not to we want to be deacons. How about all the other places of servanthood, ie. missionaries, evangelist,etc. When someone tells someone else "you can't this seems to cause rebellion in the heart. sincerely in Christ. This is an endless argument to those who don’t want to believe in todays world the Bible has not changed, so many interpretations,verses translations! This is the difference. I am a woman of God, I have the qualifications of deacon, to some and yet I know that this is not the role of women in church. As the world says, we can do all that men do, the Bible clearly does not teach this. We can be servants in so many other offices in the church, but, since we are told not to we want to be deacons. How about all the other places of servanthood, ie. missionaries, evangelist,etc. When someone tells someone else “you can’t this seems to cause rebellion in the heart.
sincerely in Christ.

]]> By: Tommy http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-94127 Tommy Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:34:47 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-94127 Your position in this matter may have been arguable had Paul not written verse 12 of 1 Timothy. I'm afraid, as others have pointed out to you, that verse 12 completely undermines your reasoning. Your position in this matter may have been arguable had Paul not written verse 12 of 1 Timothy. I’m afraid, as others have pointed out to you, that verse 12 completely undermines your reasoning.

]]> By: Ben http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-93065 Ben Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:17:45 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-93065 Your arguement for women being deacons does not hold water. This is what you wrote. What about 1 Tim 3:12 – Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well. As this is the same requirement for Elders/Overseers this would seem to preclude the office of Deacon from being fulfilled by a woman, yet it ignored by a surprising number of people. Do you know what preclude means? You use conjecture with worldly reasoning to alter the plain meaning of God inspired scripture to arrive at your chosen conclusion. You wouldn't happen to be involved with evolution are global warming, would you? This is the first and the last time I will be at this website Your arguement for women being deacons does not hold water. This is what you wrote. What about 1 Tim 3:12 – Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well.
As this is the same requirement for Elders/Overseers this would seem to preclude the office of Deacon from being fulfilled by a woman, yet it ignored by a surprising number of people. Do you know what preclude means? You use conjecture with worldly reasoning to alter the plain meaning of God inspired scripture to arrive at your chosen conclusion. You wouldn’t happen to be involved with evolution are global warming, would you? This is the first and the last time I will be at this website

]]> By: John http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-92512 John Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:02:44 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-92512 The clearest and least forced reading scripture is that both men and women are encouraged to serve God and the church. Paul acclaims both. However, in terms of titled positions, Christ chose all male apostles (and to argue that Christ was conforming to culture is blasphemous - he turned the world on its ear and he would have appointed women to that office had it been the plan of God. THe Holy Spirit, part of the same Godhead as Jesus Christ, wrote in Timothy that it was the order of creation that caused men to the rules and women the followers. The wording of all qualification summaries for elder and deacon and teacher of men is male only. The desire to usurp authority and titles has been the byword of the day. Woman can evangelize, prophesy, be hospitable, instruct one-on-one, and lead worship as Miriam did as long as they are under Godly male authority. Anything else is disorderly. The clearest and least forced reading scripture is that both men and women are encouraged to serve God and the church. Paul acclaims both. However, in terms of titled positions, Christ chose all male apostles (and to argue that Christ was conforming to culture is blasphemous – he turned the world on its ear and he would have appointed women to that office had it been the plan of God. THe Holy Spirit, part of the same Godhead as Jesus Christ, wrote in Timothy that it was the order of creation that caused men to the rules and women the followers. The wording of all qualification summaries for elder and deacon and teacher of men is male only. The desire to usurp authority and titles has been the byword of the day. Woman can evangelize, prophesy, be hospitable, instruct one-on-one, and lead worship as Miriam did as long as they are under Godly male authority. Anything else is disorderly.

]]> By: William http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-89418 William Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:34:14 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-89418 I'm cetainly glad to see that we still have some good conservative christains in this forum. I attend a church that is having this discussion now and it is very heartbreaking.The bible is our guide and it was written by men of god that was inspired by Jesus.We don't need a theologine to tell us what the bible means I promise if you will read it and pray about it God will show you what it means. God Bless I’m cetainly glad to see that we still have some good conservative christains in this forum. I attend a church that is having this discussion now and it is very heartbreaking.The bible is our guide and it was written by men of god that was inspired by Jesus.We don’t need a theologine to tell us what the bible means I promise if you will read it and pray about it God will show you what it means. God Bless

]]> By: Joseph Fasogbon http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-87379 Joseph Fasogbon Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:35:51 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-87379 TODAY CHURCHES ARE BLESSED TO HAVE THE RELEASE OF WOMEN SERVING IN THE POSITION OF WOMEN DEACONS IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE MINISTRY. ACT6:3 SHOWS THERE WAS A NEED FOR SOME MEMBERS TO TAKECARE OF THE MEMBER'S PHYSICAL NEED {TO SERVE TABLE}WHICH I BELIEVE MEN MAY DO IT BUT WOMEN MAY DO IT BETTER, AS WE SAW IN CASE OF STEVEN,THOU HE WAS CHOSEN TO BE PART OF THOSE TO SERVE TABLE BUT GOD HAS SOMETHING ELSE FOR HIM. {See Act:7} Joseph TODAY CHURCHES ARE BLESSED TO HAVE THE RELEASE OF WOMEN SERVING IN THE POSITION OF WOMEN DEACONS IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE MINISTRY.
ACT6:3 SHOWS THERE WAS A NEED FOR SOME MEMBERS TO TAKECARE OF THE MEMBER’S PHYSICAL NEED {TO SERVE TABLE}WHICH I BELIEVE MEN MAY DO IT BUT WOMEN MAY DO IT BETTER, AS WE SAW IN CASE OF STEVEN,THOU HE WAS CHOSEN TO BE PART OF THOSE TO SERVE TABLE BUT GOD HAS SOMETHING ELSE FOR HIM. {See Act:7}

Joseph

]]> By: vance bennett http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-78712 vance bennett Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:36:19 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-78712 I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE PROPER WAY COMMUION SHOULD BE SERVED IN THE BAPTIST CHURCH.OUR PASTOR GIVES THE DEACONS THERES IN THE BACK AND I DONT THINK THAT IS UNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE PROPER WAY COMMUION SHOULD BE SERVED IN THE BAPTIST CHURCH.OUR PASTOR GIVES THE DEACONS THERES IN THE BACK AND I DONT THINK THAT IS UNITY.

]]> By: patricia mauldin http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-68635 patricia mauldin Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:27:21 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-68635 Please explain "husband of one wife"... does this refer to plural marriage as in the lifestyle of some Mormans; harems, or to a divorced person??? Does divorce preclude the office of deacon??? It seems that there is one husband/wife relationship even if one is divorced? Persons are no longer married to another. Please explain “husband of one wife”… does this refer to plural marriage as in the lifestyle of some Mormans; harems, or to a divorced person??? Does divorce preclude the office of deacon??? It seems that there is one husband/wife relationship even if one is divorced? Persons are no longer married to another.

]]> By: Erick http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-44779 Erick Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:28:30 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-44779 This for Bill: Did you also receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with tongue of fire? Do you speak in tongue? The first intention of the book of acts is historical before being doctrinal. The context of choosing seven men is normal because of the time they did it. This for Bill:
Did you also receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with tongue of fire?
Do you speak in tongue?
The first intention of the book of acts is historical before being doctrinal.
The context of choosing seven men is normal because of the time they did it.

]]> By: Jason http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/the-church/on-women-deacons/comment-page-1#comment-12465 Jason Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:36:07 +0000 http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/blog/?p=38#comment-12465 Isn't the word used in verse 11 the Greek word pronounced goo-nay, which means "wife", and not "women"?.. Isn’t the word used in verse 11 the Greek word pronounced goo-nay, which means “wife”, and not “women”?..

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